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I like Immy's initiative to systematically backtest the strategy using Flowchart :

Immy's results :

So my idea was to test the strategy with the same premises and see if i get the same results.
and guess what ? I don't !
First the premises :
- CLoseToZL : 10 pips (flow chart rule 2)
- MaxFractalBoxSIze : 12 pips (flow chart rule 3)
- Switch to 5min fractal box for breakout level if distance between 1min and 5 min Fractal levels is 3 pips or less
OK so here I post my first chart: DAX 1min chart for the 15th september
There are 2 differences with respect to the backtesting template posted by Immy :
1: I haven't bought the ewave indicator yet, so I use AIMS waves 5.1
2: I added the MTF_fractal indicator ( free) to display 5min fractal levels on the 1min chart
So let's consider the dots on the chart :
10:03 Blue dot Trade marked up in Immy's file : OK
10:24 Blue dot Fractal Box size is more than 12 pips and there is no breakout anyway : Not in Immy's record : OK
10:28 Blue dot AIMS waves close to ZL ( orange),
Fractal box size is 5.5 pips, 1min fractal upper level is 9660, 5min fractal upper level is 9665.5 (more than 3 pips higher) so we wait for a breakout of 9660. And the 10:32 candle broke this level. So Immy, why is it not in your file ?
10:37 Blue dot Valid set up but no break out : Not in the file : OK
10:45 Blue dot AIMS waves close to ZL ( orange), Fractal box size is 5 pips, 1min fractal upper level is 9657, 5min fractal upper level is 9661 (more than 3 pips higher) so we wait for a breakout of 9657 10:48 candle broke this level. So it should be recorded as a valid trade
10:53 Blue dot Valid set up but no break out : Not in the file : OK
10:56 Valid trade It is recorded OK
11:19 Blue dot. For me this is also a valid trade so why is it not recorded ?
11:26 Blue dot. No break out. Not recorded OK
11:28 Red dot. Valid trade. Recorded OK
To summarize, according to my understanding of the rules, 10:28, 10:45 and 11:19 blue dots are valid trades but Immy didn't mark them up. Actually , i could find many others like that, so I must have missed something.
Thank you for reading till the end of this post . I hope it is understandable. if it is not clear, tell me
Cheers,
Bruno
Immy's results :
The stats for the month of Sep 2014 are based on the assumption that all the system generated singals were taken between London Open (8am UK) to German Stock market close at 4.30pm uk, using the Flow chart entry technique and trade management as per previous posts.
So my idea was to test the strategy with the same premises and see if i get the same results.
and guess what ? I don't !
First the premises :
- CLoseToZL : 10 pips (flow chart rule 2)
- MaxFractalBoxSIze : 12 pips (flow chart rule 3)
- Switch to 5min fractal box for breakout level if distance between 1min and 5 min Fractal levels is 3 pips or less
OK so here I post my first chart: DAX 1min chart for the 15th september
There are 2 differences with respect to the backtesting template posted by Immy :
1: I haven't bought the ewave indicator yet, so I use AIMS waves 5.1
2: I added the MTF_fractal indicator ( free) to display 5min fractal levels on the 1min chart
So let's consider the dots on the chart :
10:03 Blue dot Trade marked up in Immy's file : OK
10:24 Blue dot Fractal Box size is more than 12 pips and there is no breakout anyway : Not in Immy's record : OK
10:28 Blue dot AIMS waves close to ZL ( orange),
Fractal box size is 5.5 pips, 1min fractal upper level is 9660, 5min fractal upper level is 9665.5 (more than 3 pips higher) so we wait for a breakout of 9660. And the 10:32 candle broke this level. So Immy, why is it not in your file ?
10:37 Blue dot Valid set up but no break out : Not in the file : OK
10:45 Blue dot AIMS waves close to ZL ( orange), Fractal box size is 5 pips, 1min fractal upper level is 9657, 5min fractal upper level is 9661 (more than 3 pips higher) so we wait for a breakout of 9657 10:48 candle broke this level. So it should be recorded as a valid trade
10:53 Blue dot Valid set up but no break out : Not in the file : OK
10:56 Valid trade It is recorded OK
11:19 Blue dot. For me this is also a valid trade so why is it not recorded ?
11:26 Blue dot. No break out. Not recorded OK
11:28 Red dot. Valid trade. Recorded OK
To summarize, according to my understanding of the rules, 10:28, 10:45 and 11:19 blue dots are valid trades but Immy didn't mark them up. Actually , i could find many others like that, so I must have missed something.
Thank you for reading till the end of this post . I hope it is understandable. if it is not clear, tell me
Cheers,
Bruno
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What do you mean CloseToZL : 10 pips? its not ten pips. its the value of hte eWave. If you set it to 10.00 then on m15 it would approximately tell you that eWave is Close to ZL. But I think it should be around 3.00 to 5.0 on m1 dax on GKFX. It could be different using different brokers. Its much subjective visual analysis than mathematical value. but the box size is quite objective. The MaxFractalBoxSize means that if box is 12 pips and less then risk may be ok anything above it is not good. So what is your question? And where do you disagreed with the worksheet? I'm keen to know...Bruno wrote:I like Immy's initiative to systematically backtest the strategy using Flowchart :
First The Premises :
CLoseToZL : 10 pips (flow chart rule 2)
MaxFractalBoxSIze : 12 pips (flow chart rule 3)
Switch to 5min fractal box for breakout level if distance between 1min and 5 min Fractal levels is 3 pips or more
OK so here I post my first chart: DAX 1min chart for the 15th september
or let me guess? you're wondering why these trades were not taken? or are you wondering why does the dots appear on this chart?
What is the Secret of Successful Trading?
The Consistent Pursuit of DS1
The thing that makes me money in trading is when I "Objectively Follow my Trading Plan".
I understand that I can't catch all the moves or all the signals but my objective is to catch THE VALID SIGNALS & ONLY the Valid Signals.
My Deathbed Advice "5:1 Reward to Risk Ratio".
Yo, banana boy!
The Consistent Pursuit of DS1

The thing that makes me money in trading is when I "Objectively Follow my Trading Plan".
I understand that I can't catch all the moves or all the signals but my objective is to catch THE VALID SIGNALS & ONLY the Valid Signals.
My Deathbed Advice "5:1 Reward to Risk Ratio".
Yo, banana boy!
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Hi Immy, Thanks for your reply
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But right, let us rather take a value around 3-5 pips
This filters out 10:28 blue dot. Good
If so, do you consider these are valid setups according to the flow chart?
And I think that these are valid setups for taking trades (according to the flow chart, of course). As the breakouts did occur for these two dots ( see my chart) , I was expecting to find them in your worksheet ...
Bruno
In fact as the template file you posted here : http://www.itradeaims.net/forum/viewtop ... 180#p17537What do you mean CloseToZL : 10 pips? its not ten pips. its the value of hte eWave. If you set it to 10.00 then on m15 it would approximately tell you that eWave is Close to ZL. But I think it should be around 3.00 to 5.0 on m1 dax on GKFX.
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I thought you set CloseToZL parameter to 10 pips for your test<indicator>
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But right, let us rather take a value around 3-5 pips
This filters out 10:28 blue dot. Good
Are there blue dots at 10:45 and 11:19 on your chart ?
So what is your question?
If so, do you consider these are valid setups according to the flow chart?
On my chart (broker is ActivTrades) I have blue dots at 10:45 and 11:19 on 15th September
And where do you disagreed with the worksheet?
And I think that these are valid setups for taking trades (according to the flow chart, of course). As the breakouts did occur for these two dots ( see my chart) , I was expecting to find them in your worksheet ...
Bruno
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Those were filtered as per rules. Mostly due to m5 being too close etc. More on this in chatroom.
Please Note AGAIN. Its NOT 10 or 5 pips. Its the vslue of AO sbove below zero line
Please Note AGAIN. Its NOT 10 or 5 pips. Its the vslue of AO sbove below zero line
What is the Secret of Successful Trading?
The Consistent Pursuit of DS1
The thing that makes me money in trading is when I "Objectively Follow my Trading Plan".
I understand that I can't catch all the moves or all the signals but my objective is to catch THE VALID SIGNALS & ONLY the Valid Signals.
My Deathbed Advice "5:1 Reward to Risk Ratio".
Yo, banana boy!
The Consistent Pursuit of DS1

The thing that makes me money in trading is when I "Objectively Follow my Trading Plan".
I understand that I can't catch all the moves or all the signals but my objective is to catch THE VALID SIGNALS & ONLY the Valid Signals.
My Deathbed Advice "5:1 Reward to Risk Ratio".
Yo, banana boy!
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Hi,
Let's consider this case.
The 15th sept 11:19 candle has just closed and there is a blue dot ... Will you take this trade ?
Let's consider this case.
The 15th sept 11:19 candle has just closed and there is a blue dot ... Will you take this trade ?
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-93.5 Pips today
a lot of whipsaws
a lot of whipsaws
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Hi Bruno - It is hard to see your trades on the chart, but do you take every M15 Aims break?
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Hi Darren,
I mean to take every breakout after a dot
5 trades, 5 losses yesterday
but let's see in a long run
Bruno
I mean to take every breakout after a dot
5 trades, 5 losses yesterday
but let's see in a long run
Bruno
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I see. Maybe you could filter a little bit more and only trade when there is a tight Aims box?
Cheers
Cheers